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- Mar 8, 2010 9:38 pm (#1201 of 1218)
He might have decided the kids can go to a JC and and he could roll the dice with a high-deducatable/low coverage health plan.
TrilliumV.2
- Mar 8, 2010 10:05 pm (#1202 of 1218)
Note to Pelle: "So which kind(s) of "socialism" are you talking about, Trillium?"
Maybe you're getting confused: I'm not one of the posters who have been bringing up socialism as a preferred model.
Your dictionary definition may be helpful to them, but I'd like for people to be more specific about what they want to establish from common funding. Established religion tends to be distasteful here, for good reason. Established medicine usually cuts out therapies that many find useful (acupuncture, homeopathy, massage). Established schools don't have enough variation to suit many needy students. Instead the same generic model gets shoved down everyone's throat with the intention to help, but with the end result of pissing off or even damaging a considerable part of the population.
Note to aspiring socialists: So what is it that you wanted provided by the almighty govt?
Common govt health insurance? Then we can have civil war over abortion funding, elective voluntary euthanasia, mandatory vaccinations, etc. etc. etc.?
I see the need just as much as you, I just don't have faith in the govt solution. Maybe expanding public health clinic services could help -- but that would only go so far. Maybe the better solution would be to get out of the business entirely, but Medicare isn't going to disappear anytime soon (and at my age I'd feel the loss if it did)
R. Tugboat - Mar 9, 2010 1:23 am (#1203 of 1218)
The idea I'm advocating that we emulate Czechoslovakia is idiotic.
Just have to throw this in, but Czechoslovakia, when it wasn't under the heel of the Nazis or the Soviets was an inspiring democracy.
It's really two countries.
What about those names, Steve? The Czechoslovak-huggers you have identified here?
PelleNilsson, "Random Chat and Forum Introductions 5" #1205, 9 Mar 2010 6:31 am
I don't have to,
TrilliumV.2, "Random Chat and Forum Introductions 5" #1183, 8 Mar 2010 3:55 pm
answered it for me.
Average liberals usually don't announce themselves as socialists, but
rather blast away at capitalism, corporations and conservatives. I
can only assume they favor the left wing model of governance.
McLovin - Mar 9, 2010 1:24 pm (#1207 of 1218)
Average American "conservatives" have been adhering to a peculiar standard since Reagan (at least since Reagan): There is
nothing
too ridiculous for them to claim with a straight face...
- Mar 9, 2010 3:27 pm (#1208 of 1218)
Then we can have civil war over abortion funding, elective voluntary euthanasia, mandatory vaccinations, etc. etc. etc.?
Right...like this apathetic poplulace is going to start a civil war over anything.
BTDT, never happen again.
So the ones who yearn for a Czechoslovak type of society are Judith, Bela and Steven, is that right Steve? You want to add somebody, perhaps?
- Mar 9, 2010 4:20 pm (#1210 of 1218)
Being a Swede, you're already at least half commie anyways, Pelle.
Sinbad44
- Mar 9, 2010 4:25 pm (#1211 of 1218)
I once worked with a guy from Czechoslovakia. He and his wife had escaped the country by claiming they were going on a vacation. They took a couple of suitcases and walked away fom everything else.
In short, he said it wasn't very nice there.
- Mar 9, 2010 4:44 pm (#1212 of 1218)
I don't yearn for that type of government...I've read Milan Kundera. And the doctor who diagnosed my son in the 70s was one of those who packed a vacation bag and walked away...so I have heard some first-hand tales of what life was like there.
But please, Steve (and by extension, Pelle), feel free to label me what you wish...it will have no bearing on my life at all.
- Mar 9, 2010 5:56 pm (#1213 of 1218)
I think one can have an interest in a Swedish-style health care system or such without automatically wanting to drive a tank in the next Prague Spring.
Steve (and by extension, Pelle)
So you think I'm an extension of Steve? I've never been more insulted in my life.
- Mar 9, 2010 8:09 pm (#1215 of 1218)
I meant because you seem to have to picked up Steve's mantra of me wanting a socialist government...when all I said was that some things make me lean more toward that way of thinking.
I never said I wanted my government or my country to become SOCIALIST.
- Mar 9, 2010 8:13 pm (#1216 of 1218)
Judith, I really don't think that's what Pelle meant. NOT. AT. ALL.
- Mar 9, 2010 8:23 pm (#1217 of 1218)
Well, it wouldn't be the first time I misunderstood something posted by him...or vice versa.
Well, I'M a Commie, and damn proud of it! From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs! If you're not socialist, you're antisocial!
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